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Developing Ruled Surfaces
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parel
2005-12-17 06:03:05 UTC
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I am developing some soft good concepts and would like to use ruled
surfaces as a reference to create flat patterns. I would like to create
a set of ruled surfaces that could be flattened out for a pattern
maker. I have been looking but it does not seem that the sheet metal
functionality works with surfaces. Does anyone have any ideas?
j***@pct.edu
2005-12-17 15:24:41 UTC
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Post by parel
it does not seem that the sheet metal
functionality works with surfaces.

Sheet metal is not infinitely thin. Thicken the surfaces to solids.
Jeff Howard
2005-12-17 16:05:50 UTC
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... Thicken the surfaces to solids.
Curiosity question: Will SW flatten all developable / flat wrap shapes, i.e. a
thin walled extrusion with elliptical section?

All else failing, Rhino might be suggested. It'll do anything developable and
try to give you an approximation of shapes with mild compound curvature.

Believe AeroHydro's SW add-on (? or is it a separate "flatten" module?) can do
compounds, too, though more expensive.
j***@pct.edu
2005-12-18 16:04:16 UTC
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No
Jeff Howard
2005-12-18 21:43:52 UTC
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Muchas gracias, senor. `;^)
Bruce Bretschneider
2005-12-26 23:56:59 UTC
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Post by Jeff Howard
... Thicken the surfaces to solids.
Curiosity question: Will SW flatten all developable / flat wrap shapes, i.e. a
thin walled extrusion with elliptical section?
All else failing, Rhino might be suggested. It'll do anything developable and
try to give you an approximation of shapes with mild compound curvature.
Believe AeroHydro's SW add-on (? or is it a separate "flatten" module?) can do
compounds, too, though more expensive.
Try using a lofted surface on the elliptic cross section. Then thicken
the surface and flatten it. That might work.

matt
2005-12-17 16:26:39 UTC
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The only thing SW will flatten is sheet metal. The only way to get SW
to flatten a ruled surface is to make a "lofted bend" sheet metal
feature. If you make your ruled surface, convert the 2 non-straight
sides to 3D sketches, then make lofted bends, that will flatten. This
essentially uses the ruled surface just as a reference to get the edges,
and uses them to create essentially the same geometry, but with some
thickness, and as part of a sheet metal feature.

Otherwise the Rhino (free) or an eval copy of Geometryworks will do it
for free.

Good luck,

Matt
Post by parel
I am developing some soft good concepts and would like to use ruled
surfaces as a reference to create flat patterns. I would like to create
a set of ruled surfaces that could be flattened out for a pattern
maker. I have been looking but it does not seem that the sheet metal
functionality works with surfaces. Does anyone have any ideas?
TOP
2005-12-18 06:35:30 UTC
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It is possible to flatten any doubly curved surface in SolidWorks, but
the method requires a great deal of very tedious work and is only an
approximation in most cases.
parel
2005-12-18 11:43:04 UTC
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Yup- I have Rhino . I was hoping that I would not have to use the
program, as it it somewhat slow and I was hoping to do more work in
Solidworks. It would be cool to use the ruled surface as a skeleton
over which to generate geometry. Then flatten the ruled surfaces and
use the ruled surfaces (bent and unbent) to create deform curves. This
is probably unnecessary but would have been an interesting exploration.
However you would think that Solidworks would be able to develop at
least a thickened ruled surface.

I have pseudo-flattened a label pocket in the past using the Deform
command. Is this the tedious work you were referring to?
TOP
2005-12-18 13:50:44 UTC
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Deform is not what I had in mind. The method is much more tedious than
that. It is in fact what you would have to do if you were using a
drawing board and involves breaking the surface up into triangles and
then using projection methods to get a true approximation in the flat.
It works, but is very tedious. I used it last for a warped sheet metal
part to get a laser pattern. Once a year is enough.
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