The most helpful Usenet newsgroup . . .

[Sporkman]

. . . that I've found is comp.cad.solidworks.

Just bragging on you guys. I posted the same message about estimating
engineering time for machine design projects on six other newsgroups,
and guess where I got the most answers AND the most helpful answers.

Newsgroups I included, and where one would expect to find people who
would be happy to reply, as well as helpful replies:

sci.engr (no replies)
sci.engr.control (2 replies by the same person)
sci.engr.manufacturing (no replies)
sci.engr.mech (2 replies)
alt.mechanical.engineering (no replies)
comp.cad.pro-engineer (no replies -- potential respondants too busy
dealing with arrogant tech support to answer)

The replies that I did get in those other groups weren't really helpful,
save perhaps for one (only slightly helpful). Offhand I'd have to say
the comparison with comp.cad.solidworks (7 different respondents with 14
different responses, most of which were at least somewhat helpful) shows
a level of professionalism unparalleled in those other groups.

So -- cheers to a bunch of highly professional people . . . YOU.

Best regards to all,
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Charlotte, NC, USA

[Mike Grant]

I agree I find this the most useful forum or newsgroup there is.

Post by Sporkman
. . . that I've found is comp.cad.solidworks.
Just bragging on you guys. I posted the same message about estimating
engineering time for machine design projects on six other newsgroups,
and guess where I got the most answers AND the most helpful answers.
Newsgroups I included, and where one would expect to find people who
sci.engr (no replies)
sci.engr.control (2 replies by the same person)
sci.engr.manufacturing (no replies)
sci.engr.mech (2 replies)
alt.mechanical.engineering (no replies)
comp.cad.pro-engineer (no replies -- potential respondants too busy
dealing with arrogant tech support to answer)
The replies that I did get in those other groups weren't really helpful,
save perhaps for one (only slightly helpful). Offhand I'd have to say
the comparison with comp.cad.solidworks (7 different respondents with 14
different responses, most of which were at least somewhat helpful) shows
a level of professionalism unparalleled in those other groups.
So -- cheers to a bunch of highly professional people . . . YOU.
Best regards to all,
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Charlotte, NC, USA

[Scott]

Sup Sporkman!!

If you haven't already tried it - Try www.eng-tips.com

Regards,
Scott

Post by Sporkman
. . . that I've found is comp.cad.solidworks.
Just bragging on you guys. I posted the same message about estimating
engineering time for machine design projects on six other newsgroups,
and guess where I got the most answers AND the most helpful answers.
Newsgroups I included, and where one would expect to find people who
sci.engr (no replies)
sci.engr.control (2 replies by the same person)
sci.engr.manufacturing (no replies)
sci.engr.mech (2 replies)
alt.mechanical.engineering (no replies)
comp.cad.pro-engineer (no replies -- potential respondants too busy
dealing with arrogant tech support to answer)
The replies that I did get in those other groups weren't really helpful,
save perhaps for one (only slightly helpful). Offhand I'd have to say
the comparison with comp.cad.solidworks (7 different respondents with 14
different responses, most of which were at least somewhat helpful) shows
a level of professionalism unparalleled in those other groups.
So -- cheers to a bunch of highly professional people . . . YOU.
Best regards to all,
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Charlotte, NC, USA

[Philippe Guglielmetti]

Post by Scott
If you haven't already tried it - Try www.eng-tips.com

eng-tips is very nice, however I see some problems with the SolidWorks
forum:
1) it is too "non-commercial". Every time I say "I have an add-in that does
this" or "I can do it for you" I get spanked
2) most topics duplicate with those here, but few people regularly follow
both engtips and comp.cad.solidworks, resulting in spliting the community in
2

In fact I didn't really understand the advantages of engtips compared to the
newsgroup...

[Scott]

Have you read the rules??

You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free or if
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.

Rule 11 Explains this -

If you wish to sell a product or services, look into purchasing targeted ad
banner space or a targeted email list from Tecumseh Group
(advertising"AT"tecumsehgroup.com or call 1-800-9X4-7800). Do not try to
sell directly in the fora. These types of posts will generally be red
flagged.

This is why you get red flagged!!

There are a total of 19 rules that have been setup by those of the Round
Table at eng-tips.com. If you decide to read the FAQ the link at eng-tips is
faq731-376 look that FAQ up and read thru the rules. The rules are there to
keep the reader on the subject at hand and not to deal with spammers,
salesmen and your off the wall do-it-yourself person. See the rules for
futher details.

www.emg-tips.com has lots of information and FAQ's you don't have to sift
through all the subjects to find what you are looking for all the time. Like
you do with this NG. There are many benefits, but if your a salesman then I
guess it isn't the Forum for you.

There is also a www.tek-tips.com that might help all of you as well.
(Computer hardware and Software (OS, VB, etc...) forum)

Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti

Post by Scott
If you haven't already tried it - Try www.eng-tips.com

eng-tips is very nice, however I see some problems with the SolidWorks
1) it is too "non-commercial". Every time I say "I have an add-in that does
this" or "I can do it for you" I get spanked
2) most topics duplicate with those here, but few people regularly follow
both engtips and comp.cad.solidworks, resulting in spliting the community in
2
In fact I didn't really understand the advantages of engtips compared to the
newsgroup...
--
Philippe Guglielmetti - www.dynabits.com

[Scott]

The link should have been www.eng-tips.com not "emg-tips.com"

Post by Scott
Have you read the rules??
You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free or if
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.
Rule 11 Explains this -
If you wish to sell a product or services, look into purchasing targeted ad
banner space or a targeted email list from Tecumseh Group
(advertising"AT"tecumsehgroup.com or call 1-800-9X4-7800). Do not try to
sell directly in the fora. These types of posts will generally be red
flagged.
This is why you get red flagged!!
There are a total of 19 rules that have been setup by those of the Round
Table at eng-tips.com. If you decide to read the FAQ the link at eng-tips is
faq731-376 look that FAQ up and read thru the rules. The rules are there to
keep the reader on the subject at hand and not to deal with spammers,
salesmen and your off the wall do-it-yourself person. See the rules for
futher details.
www.eng-tips.com has lots of information and FAQ's you don't have to sift
through all the subjects to find what you are looking for all the time. Like
you do with this NG. There are many benefits, but if your a salesman then I
guess it isn't the Forum for you.
There is also a www.tek-tips.com that might help all of you as well.
(Computer hardware and Software (OS, VB, etc...) forum)
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti

Post by Scott
If you haven't already tried it - Try www.eng-tips.com

eng-tips is very nice, however I see some problems with the SolidWorks
1) it is too "non-commercial". Every time I say "I have an add-in that

does

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
this" or "I can do it for you" I get spanked
2) most topics duplicate with those here, but few people regularly follow
both engtips and comp.cad.solidworks, resulting in spliting the

community

Post by Scott
in

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
2
In fact I didn't really understand the advantages of engtips compared to

the

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
newsgroup...
--
Philippe Guglielmetti - www.dynabits.com

[Devin]

Thank goodness noone minds you advertising here.

Post by Scott
The link should have been www.eng-tips.com not "emg-tips.com"

Post by Scott
Have you read the rules??
You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free

or

Post by Scott
if

Post by Scott
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.
Rule 11 Explains this -
If you wish to sell a product or services, look into purchasing targeted

ad

Post by Scott
banner space or a targeted email list from Tecumseh Group
(advertising"AT"tecumsehgroup.com or call 1-800-9X4-7800). Do not try to
sell directly in the fora. These types of posts will generally be red
flagged.
This is why you get red flagged!!
There are a total of 19 rules that have been setup by those of the Round
Table at eng-tips.com. If you decide to read the FAQ the link at

eng-tips

Post by Scott
is

Post by Scott
faq731-376 look that FAQ up and read thru the rules. The rules are there

to

Post by Scott
keep the reader on the subject at hand and not to deal with spammers,
salesmen and your off the wall do-it-yourself person. See the rules for
futher details.
www.eng-tips.com has lots of information and FAQ's you don't have to sift
through all the subjects to find what you are looking for all the time.

Like

Post by Scott
you do with this NG. There are many benefits, but if your a salesman

then

Post by Scott
I

Post by Scott
guess it isn't the Forum for you.
There is also a www.tek-tips.com that might help all of you as well.
(Computer hardware and Software (OS, VB, etc...) forum)
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti

Post by Scott
If you haven't already tried it - Try www.eng-tips.com

eng-tips is very nice, however I see some problems with the SolidWorks
1) it is too "non-commercial". Every time I say "I have an add-in that

does

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
this" or "I can do it for you" I get spanked
2) most topics duplicate with those here, but few people regularly

follow

Post by Scott

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
both engtips and comp.cad.solidworks, resulting in spliting the

community

Post by Scott
in

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
2
In fact I didn't really understand the advantages of engtips compared to

the

Post by Philippe Guglielmetti
newsgroup...
--
Philippe Guglielmetti - www.dynabits.com

[Dale Dunn]

Yeah, Philippe is a little different about it. He actually has a
contribution to the conversation here, rather than simply using the forum
for free exposure.

[Scott]

Are you impling that I'm using this as free exposure?

I think the subject line is "The most helpful Usenet newsgroup . . ." So I
put my 2cents worth. If you don't like it... tough! If you don't like it
make your own damn NG.

I like eng-tips.com I find it better than this NG. This one
(comp.cad.solidworks) is bit busier, but sometimes it's not as busy as
eng-tips. If you guys would just have followed the rules then you wouldn't
have gotten red-flagged. I can't believe people that are so eager for SW
information don't use all the NG to their advantage. I spend time in all the
NG that I'm aware of. Having that much information is useful for anyone. If
you boycott it then it's more your lose then mine. Unless you all, know it
all? I'm sure some of think that... It's in your posts that you post.

So you don't think I have any contribution to the conversations here?
Huh....? Go figure!

Post by Dale Dunn
Yeah, Philippe is a little different about it. He actually has a
contribution to the conversation here, rather than simply using the forum
for free exposure.

[Dale Dunn]

Post by Scott
So you don't think I have any contribution to the conversations here?
Huh....? Go figure!

Uh, it wasn't my intention to convey that. I thought Devin was replying to
Philippe, and I was agreeing with him that I don't mind Philippe's plugs.
After looking at it again, I'm not sure who he was replying to. I don't
remember seeing you advertise here, so I concluded he was talking to
Philippe.

I certainly don't think you've made no contribution here. For crying
outloud, you've certainly submitted more knowledge and wisdom here than I
have.

[Scott]

I apologize Dale! I thought your post was pointed to me directly since it
was located directly below me in the NG tree.

I don't mind Philippe's plugs either. I was just saying that eng-tips has
rules and advertising isn't one of them. Some people may not like that in a
NG, but I do. I don't like having to sift through good information and
advertisements. I get enough of that when I watch TV, reading my Snail mail
or answering the phone anymore.

Thanks Dale for that tid bit, but I don't think so. I have seen some super
ideas from you in this NG. I don't reply as often as I used to just
because... but I do read this NG often. You give lots of good information,
that's very useful to people and users. If you haven't joined eng-tips.com
already you should! You would make a good addition to the other power users
there in the SW forum. I would most certainly welcome you there.

Best Regards Dale,
Scott

Post by Dale Dunn

Post by Scott
So you don't think I have any contribution to the conversations here?
Huh....? Go figure!

Uh, it wasn't my intention to convey that. I thought Devin was replying to
Philippe, and I was agreeing with him that I don't mind Philippe's plugs.
After looking at it again, I'm not sure who he was replying to. I don't
remember seeing you advertise here, so I concluded he was talking to
Philippe.
I certainly don't think you've made no contribution here. For crying
outloud, you've certainly submitted more knowledge and wisdom here than I
have.

[Jim Sculley]

Post by Scott
I apologize Dale! I thought your post was pointed to me directly since it
was located directly below me in the NG tree.
I don't mind Philippe's plugs either. I was just saying that eng-tips has
rules and advertising isn't one of them. Some people may not like that in a
NG, but I do. I don't like having to sift through good information and
advertisements. I get enough of that when I watch TV,

One word. TiVo.

;)

Jim S.

[Jerry Steiger]

Post by Jim Sculley

Post by Scott
I don't like having to sift through good information

and

Post by Jim Sculley

Post by Scott
advertisements. I get enough of that when I watch TV,

One word. TiVo.

Now, that's a useful tip! Ain't this newsgroup great!

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"

[Richard Doyle]

Post by Scott
Have you read the rules??
You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free or if
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.

Scott,
I had a message removed and got a terse email for announcing a user
conference on Eng-Tips. I called to see what the problem was and was told
the message was "flagged" by a user as innapropriate. That would be fine
except I wasn't even given a chance explain - that ain't good. I "flagged"
myself the next day and won't go back.

Richard

[Scott]

That was considered Advertisement I guess. Sorry about that, but can you
rule out good informative information just because of that reason alone?

Regards,
Scott

Post by Richard Doyle

Post by Scott
Have you read the rules??
You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free

or

Post by Richard Doyle
if

Post by Scott
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.

Scott,
I had a message removed and got a terse email for announcing a user
conference on Eng-Tips. I called to see what the problem was and was told
the message was "flagged" by a user as innapropriate. That would be fine
except I wasn't even given a chance explain - that ain't good. I "flagged"
myself the next day and won't go back.
Richard

[Jeff Howard]

Post by Richard Doyle
I had a message removed and got a terse email for announcing a
user conference on Eng-Tips. ...... I "flagged" myself the next
day and won't go back.

Two "flags" in one week? That ain't bad. 8~)

Post by Richard Doyle
comp.cad.pro-engineer (no replies -- potential
respondants too busy dealing .....

That's not a very "lively" group. If the one fella that fields most of the
questions ever finds full time work the rest of us are gonna be in big
trouble. 8~)

Got to agree this group has more traffic, more diversified, interesting
(even for a non-user) topics and supportive users than the average.

goodayall .....
===============================

[Philippe Guglielmetti]

Post by Scott
Have you read the rules??
You cannot sale commerical goods there. If you have something for free or if
you know of a company selling something that you know will work help
somebody out, then it can be posted. You can't post it if your trying to
sell your services.

Sure I read the rules. I understood that you shouldn't post things like
"MyCompany announces the release of MyProduct v.2004.3 which costs $$$", and
I think it is an acceptable policy.
Now when someone has a problem and "you know of a company selling something
that you know will work ", why does it make a difference that you precisely
work in that company ?

My post was just to say that eng-tips and comp.cad.solidworks are mainly
discussing the same topics, while IMHO the rule about advertising actually
splits the community in 2.

Then I had a long sleep while you all had a fight about this ;-)

Besides, I think eadvertisment is prettly low on this ng. Does it really
hurt?

[neil]

what really worries me is that this many people listen to late night radio
and don't talk about it openly...

[Nev Williams]

100% agree.
This forum is required reading for me, although I have not posted much.
usually I find the answer by searching back through the ng.

I find reading it a constant source of elightenment for all things solidworks
-and quite a few other left field topics as well :-)

Being down at the other end of the world we do not have the huge user base
to lean on - its great to be able to tap into the top side!

Thanks all.
--
Neville Williams
(remove the "knot" to reply)

Post by Sporkman
. . . that I've found is comp.cad.solidworks.
Just bragging on you guys. I posted the same message about estimating
engineering time for machine design projects on six other newsgroups,
and guess where I got the most answers AND the most helpful answers.
Offhand I'd have to say
the comparison with comp.cad.solidworks (7 different respondents with 14
different responses, most of which were at least somewhat helpful) shows
a level of professionalism unparalleled in those other groups.
So -- cheers to a bunch of highly professional people . . . YOU.
Best regards to all,
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Charlotte, NC, USA

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[rocheey]

And may I add that the residents of this group are the most
attractive, and well dressed, of any of those other NG's :P

[Sporkman]

Post by rocheey
And may I add that the residents of this group are the most
attractive, and well dressed, of any of those other NG's :P

At least we think so.
;->

[Dan Bovinich]

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~sw/sw/

Dan

Post by Sporkman
. . . that I've found is comp.cad.solidworks.
Just bragging on you guys. I posted the same message about estimating
engineering time for machine design projects on six other newsgroups,
and guess where I got the most answers AND the most helpful answers.
Newsgroups I included, and where one would expect to find people who
sci.engr (no replies)
sci.engr.control (2 replies by the same person)
sci.engr.manufacturing (no replies)
sci.engr.mech (2 replies)
alt.mechanical.engineering (no replies)
comp.cad.pro-engineer (no replies -- potential respondants too busy
dealing with arrogant tech support to answer)
The replies that I did get in those other groups weren't really helpful,
save perhaps for one (only slightly helpful). Offhand I'd have to say
the comparison with comp.cad.solidworks (7 different respondents with 14
different responses, most of which were at least somewhat helpful) shows
a level of professionalism unparalleled in those other groups.
So -- cheers to a bunch of highly professional people . . . YOU.
Best regards to all,
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Charlotte, NC, USA