Discussion:
PDM-WORKS or DBWORKS ??
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Bas
2004-07-15 16:02:04 UTC
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Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.

I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.

Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.

I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.

I hope you can help us further.

Thanks

Bas
Keith Streich
2004-07-15 16:33:32 UTC
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We are in the same boat and evaluating both packages also. I would suggest
that your company evaluate their needs, work flow, future requirements
before pulling the trigger. PDM may be adequate for them today, but DB may
have greater potential for an expanding company, integration with other
packages (MRP/ERP) via SQL and allowing the file structure to be AS IS for
other personal to access.

Keith
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
Phil Evans
2004-07-15 17:15:11 UTC
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We looked at both of these as well, we also went to a PDMWorks presentation
at the local Solidworks 2004 launch.

PDMWorks is a file manager just like Windows Explorer, very limited, DBWorks
is a true database engine.

It was also obvious at the PDMWorks presentation I went to that there would
not be any significant developement of the project that would step on the
toes of Smarteam, so this sytem will always be very limited.
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
cadman800
2004-07-15 19:14:56 UTC
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What is the cost comparison for both? We have PDMWorks but are thinking of
looking elsewhere as PDMworks doesn't all of our needs.

TIA
Dennis
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
Keith Streich
2004-07-15 19:38:49 UTC
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Depends on the number of seats of DB and also requires a server with SQL and
it's licenses for those seats. We're presently looking at 4 enterprise and
4 standalone seats and the difference is ~15K vs. PDM.

Keith
Post by cadman800
What is the cost comparison for both? We have PDMWorks but are thinking of
looking elsewhere as PDMworks doesn't all of our needs.
TIA
Dennis
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
JOE MCBURNIE
2004-07-16 06:48:23 UTC
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Dear All,

While you are looking PDMworks and DBWorks you should consider another
product called www.DesignDataManager.com this is also a true database (no
underlying DB Cost) and supports Solidworks (Memeber of Solidworks Partner
Development Program), ProE, Inventor, AutoCAD, ME10 and most Single Windows
File formats. This solution is an Engineering Design Change Management, and
Project Management System. It has been on the market for 7-8 years, is very
stable, very easy to use and is the easiest product on the market to install
and maintain. Installation and configuration for 6 seats would only take 1
day.

DesignDataManager offers big product functionality for an entry level price,
Well worth taking a look you have nothing to loose, I will make sure you are
looked after!

Regards, Joe
Joe McBurnie
CSI - DesignDataManager
Managing Director
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
Marc Gibeault
2004-07-19 13:08:21 UTC
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Hi,

What is the cost per seat?

Marc
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Dear All,
While you are looking PDMworks and DBWorks you should consider another
product called www.DesignDataManager.com this is also a true database (no
underlying DB Cost) and supports Solidworks (Memeber of Solidworks Partner
Development Program), ProE, Inventor, AutoCAD, ME10 and most Single Windows
File formats. This solution is an Engineering Design Change Management, and
Project Management System. It has been on the market for 7-8 years, is very
stable, very easy to use and is the easiest product on the market to install
and maintain. Installation and configuration for 6 seats would only take 1
day.
DesignDataManager offers big product functionality for an entry level price,
Well worth taking a look you have nothing to loose, I will make sure you are
looked after!
Regards, Joe
Joe McBurnie
CSI - DesignDataManager
Managing Director
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
JOE MCBURNIE
2004-07-19 22:11:46 UTC
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Dear Marc

The apprx costs are as follows;
DDM Office £600.00 or $/?900.00
DDM Pro £1000.00 or $/?1500.00 (includes DDM Office)
DDM Web Server £2250.00 or $/?3375.00 (unlimited Read/Only users)
DDM Remote Inteligent File Servers £1800.00 or $/?2700.00 per site
1 day install for up to 6 seats
2 days user trg
1-2 days admin training
This product requires little to no daily administration and supports Pro/E,
Solidworks, Inventor, autocad, ME10 and most other Windows single file
formats.

If you have any further questions, please can you mail direct to
***@csi-europe.com

Look forward to hearing from you again.
Post by Marc Gibeault
Hi,
What is the cost per seat?
Marc
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Dear All,
While you are looking PDMworks and DBWorks you should consider another
product called www.DesignDataManager.com this is also a true database (no
underlying DB Cost) and supports Solidworks (Memeber of Solidworks Partner
Development Program), ProE, Inventor, AutoCAD, ME10 and most Single
Windows
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
File formats. This solution is an Engineering Design Change Management,
and
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Project Management System. It has been on the market for 7-8 years, is
very
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
stable, very easy to use and is the easiest product on the market to
install
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
and maintain. Installation and configuration for 6 seats would only take 1
day.
DesignDataManager offers big product functionality for an entry level
price,
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Well worth taking a look you have nothing to loose, I will make sure you
are
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
looked after!
Regards, Joe
Joe McBurnie
CSI - DesignDataManager
Managing Director
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
Marc Gibeault
2004-07-20 12:46:43 UTC
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Thanks.
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Dear Marc
The apprx costs are as follows;
DDM Office £600.00 or $/?900.00
DDM Pro £1000.00 or $/?1500.00 (includes DDM Office)
DDM Web Server £2250.00 or $/?3375.00 (unlimited Read/Only users)
DDM Remote Inteligent File Servers £1800.00 or $/?2700.00 per site
1 day install for up to 6 seats
2 days user trg
1-2 days admin training
This product requires little to no daily administration and supports Pro/E,
Solidworks, Inventor, autocad, ME10 and most other Windows single file
formats.
If you have any further questions, please can you mail direct to
Look forward to hearing from you again.
Post by Marc Gibeault
Hi,
What is the cost per seat?
Marc
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Dear All,
While you are looking PDMworks and DBWorks you should consider another
product called www.DesignDataManager.com this is also a true database
(no
Post by Marc Gibeault
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
underlying DB Cost) and supports Solidworks (Memeber of Solidworks
Partner
Post by Marc Gibeault
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Development Program), ProE, Inventor, AutoCAD, ME10 and most Single
Windows
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
File formats. This solution is an Engineering Design Change Management,
and
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Project Management System. It has been on the market for 7-8 years, is
very
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
stable, very easy to use and is the easiest product on the market to
install
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
and maintain. Installation and configuration for 6 seats would only
take
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
1
Post by Marc Gibeault
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
day.
DesignDataManager offers big product functionality for an entry level
price,
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
Well worth taking a look you have nothing to loose, I will make sure you
are
Post by JOE MCBURNIE
looked after!
Regards, Joe
Joe McBurnie
CSI - DesignDataManager
Managing Director
Post by Bas
Hi,
At the moment I'm working at a company where they just started working
with (hired) Solidworks. Now they want to buy Solidworks for
themselves, but doubt which PDM system they should choose.
I have experiance with Smarteam, which I liked. Smarteam however is a
far to expensive system.
Based on that they have doubts whether to use PDMWorks from Dasault or
DBWorks from mechworks. I was wondering if anyone has some experiance
with these systems.
I myself have the feeling that DBWorks is a much more mature PDM
system.
I hope you can help us further.
Thanks
Bas
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